From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu Thu Nov 3 05:51:16 1994 Message-Id: <199411031051.AA19801@nfs1.digex.net> Date: Thu Nov 3 05:51:16 1994 From: i.alexander.bra0125@oasis.icl.co.uk Subject: Re: some definitions Status: RO la pycyn. cusku di'e > But the Lojban does not work, since _lo_tanxe_ is, by its form, not a > quantifier expression at all, but a singular term -- a candidate for > replacing, not for being replaced in instantiation. ... > But then _lo_broda_ clearly lies on the specific side. It looks like a > de- scription and that counts for something in a logical language. You obviously have clear ideas of what constitutes a description, and of what a description means, which are not totally familiar to many of the rest of us. I need to read this again (and again :) and think about it some more, but let me just ask one question - where does su'o broda at-least[-one] thingummy fit in? Does it 'look like' a description or a quantification? Is it equivalent to {lo broda}, as I have long assumed? (I own up - it's actually three questions :-) The above is the important bit - what follows is just thinking aloud. ... > And, of course, _lo_ binds no variable, even > implicitly, as a quantifier does. I'm not sure what you mean by "implicitly" here. I consider a quantifier to bind its variable explicitly. I have espoused the view that {lo} binds an invisible variable which can be later referred to using {le}, a position which resembles the Karttunen concept. mu'o mi'e .i,n.