Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rBmRH-00007EC; Sun, 27 Nov 94 18:26 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2855; Sun, 27 Nov 94 18:27:12 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 2849; Sun, 27 Nov 1994 18:27:11 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7330; Sun, 27 Nov 1994 17:23:57 +0100 Date: Sun, 27 Nov 1994 11:26:17 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: more on lehe & ka To: ucleaar@ucl.ac.uk Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Content-Length: 447 Lines: 10 *lo* ka does not pick out any particular kind of property in my estimation lo'e refers to a hypothetical object that has all of the defining properties and all of the non-defining properties in medial values. le'e refers to a hypothetical object that has whatever properties that the speaker wants to ascribe to the referent, including possibly some properties that are neither defining nor non-defining (i.e. imaginary or prejudicial). lojbab