Message-Id: <199411192019.AA25695@nfs1.digex.net> From: Jorge Llambias Date: Sat Nov 19 15:19:21 1994 Subject: Re: Cowan's summary: opacity and sumti-raising Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Sat Nov 19 15:19:21 1994 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu la lojbab cusku di'e > We can solve the "look for object" problem most simply by just creating a lujvo > for this meaning. Ok, then that proves that there is nothing strange about a brivla meaning "x1 looks for x2". I find "x1 looks for something with property x2" more intricate, and so I would prefer that this last one be handled with a lujvo based on the first one, but that is of course my subjective judgement. > studji or stujundji or faktoi all could be appropriate, > perhaps with slightly different place structures according to the Nick > formulary. {faktoi} is "x1 tries to discover x2(du'u) about x3" {stujundji} I suppose would be "x1 wants to know the location of x2", which doesn't really have an active search-for component. Also, it only works for things that have inherent locations. I suppose {studji} is meant as a shortening of this one. {zvajundji} would be the corresponding one for nonce location of an object. Again, it doesn't really involve active searching. I think {zvadji} would not serve in this case for a short form, because it seems to mean more something like "x1 wants to be at x2". {sisku} would be so much more useful with a simple, more basic meaning... Jorge