Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0r7ds6-00006eC; Wed, 16 Nov 94 08:29 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 3808; Wed, 16 Nov 94 08:29:46 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3804; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 08:29:45 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8203; Wed, 16 Nov 1994 07:25:58 +0100 Date: Tue, 15 Nov 1994 22:56:10 -0700 Reply-To: Chris Bogart Sender: Lojban list From: Chris Bogart Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Lambda Notation For Dummies (and & Rosta) & Lojban X-To: lojban@cuvmb.bitnet To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 928 Lines: 21 >This proposal involves creating an explicit "lambda quantifier", which would >formally belong to selma'o PA but would be attached only to da-series KOhA >or BY cmavo. Call it "xa'e" temporarily. Using it, Example 11 >can be translated: > >15) le ka xa'eda mamta [zo'e] Could this also replace "ke'a" in POI phrases? It seems so similar to ke'a that there ought to be some way to combine them or at least make them somehow parallel... *mi nelci da poi xa'eda mamta "I like things which are mothers" The differences between ke'a, -kau, and xa'e are interesting to think about; they seem to do similar things in different contexts. I have to say they almost seem like kluges, but I can't think of any way around using them. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Bogart cbogart@quetzal.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~