Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0r5inA-00005XC; Fri, 11 Nov 94 01:20 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1904; Fri, 11 Nov 94 01:20:45 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 1901; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 01:20:45 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9366; Fri, 11 Nov 1994 00:17:20 +0100 Date: Thu, 10 Nov 1994 17:59:45 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Outside quantifiers on masses X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 507 Lines: 11 Jorge says they are confusing, and he is right, but they are not utterly useless. Although a mass has all the properties of its components, it also has some emergent properties, and the level of emergence may appear at some given level of the mass. Consider that mass as a mass of cells. 10% of a person is a dead person, but 100% of that mass is alive; 90% may or may not be alive. -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.