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Date:         Sat, 5 Nov 1994 20:49:53 +0000
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From:         ucleaar <ucleaar@UCL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: veridicality trivial?
To:           Veijo Vilva <veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI>
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Bob Chassell:
> jorge@phyast.pitt.edu cuska di'e
>
>     > In Lojban, an imperative is true iff the command is carried out.
>
>     Is that true? I thought imperatives didn't have truth values.
>
> This is a fundamental misunderstanding of Loglan.  *Every* predication
> is considered true or false.  This is fundamental to the language.
>
> In a context where `the' is the appropriate translation for {lo}:
>
>     ko ciska lo plipe
>
> Means "make it be true that `you eat the apple'"
>
> So the question is, is the following utterance true?
>
>     do ciska lo plipe
>
> If you do not eat the apple, it is false.  It can only be true if you
> do eat the apple.  Hence, the imperative is true if and only if the
> command is carried out.

This seems to contradict what pc recently said. I can't remember
his exact terms, but it was something like that imperatives have
"satisfaction conditions" rather than "truth conditions".

What are the truth conditions for Lojban wh-questions?

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