From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu Sat Nov 19 11:05:25 1994 Message-Id: <199411191605.AA23413@nfs2.digex.net> Date: Sat Nov 19 11:05:25 1994 From: bob@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: da'i Status: RO pc said: ... I am stopped by questions like, if a sentence means different things depending on whether it is true or false, how do we find out whether it is true or false, since we have to know what it means to make that determination? .. Discover the meaning by thinking subjunctively. In Lojban, preface your utterance with {da'i}, as in .i da'i ja'a go'i With {da'i} you can (attempt to) discover the meaning; then use the usual tools to (attempt to) determine whether that meaning is true or false or some degree in between or not determinable. Two other useful Lojban cmavo for this context: la'a probability; can also be used with numbers for degrees of probability with the conventional operations for probability. ju'o certainty; can also be used with numbers for scales of certainty (what AI programmers call `certainty factors'). The mathematical operations for certainty scales work quite differently from probabilities, and are not yet widely used. Use uncertainty factors when you don't know truth and don't expect to find out directly, but have judgements, the results of which you might test and assign as probabilities. For example, many species of mushroom where I grew up are poisonous. My father often said words to the effect that `I am fairly certain that is an non-poisonous mushroom, so we should pick it and take it home; but we should also make a spore print so as to assign a reliable probability to our identification.'