From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu Wed Nov 30 19:15:42 1994 Message-Id: <199412010015.AA08483@nfs1.digex.net> Date: Wed Nov 30 19:15:42 1994 From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: Some thoughts on Lojban gadri Status: RO And: > The term "massification" suggests to me what you understand "loi" to > mean, but the traditional discussion in terms of Trobrianders' > alleged Mr Rabbit leads me to think Bob has it right. I thought that discussion was about Loglan "lo", which doesn't map well to any of the Lojban gadri. For most cases of Mr Rabbit, {lo'e ractu} seems to make more sense. > I understand "loi" to involve a kind of denial of differentiation > between members of a category, not so that they all merge together > in a porridgey blob, but so that we cannot tell the difference > between one instance of Mr Broda and another instance. > > But if I have this right, a default of "pisuho loi" doesn't make > much sense. Exactly. Also the porridgey blob is very useful, especially in the case of {lei}. (And if you want to consider the body as a "mass" of cells, another of the favoured examples, you better allow for differences among the members.) Jorge