Message-Id: <199412010016.AA08565@nfs1.digex.net> From: Jorge Llambias Date: Wed Nov 30 19:16:28 1994 Subject: Re: lohe, lehe & ka Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Wed Nov 30 19:16:28 1994 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu And: > Well, if "loi cipnrdodo" is "Mr Dodo" (i.e. the category construed as > having only one member, or as with all members being the same) > then I guess piro loi C. is the whole of Mr Dodo and pimu loi > c. is half of Mr D. You see half a dodo and say to me "ko viska > pimu loi cipnrdodo". That's definitely not how I understand {loi}, and it doesn't seem a useful distinction. When would you use {loi} with its default quantification? When you see a little piece of dodo? For {lei} it is even clearer, because the inside quantification is more useful: {lei ci prenu} is a mass of three people, i.e. the three taken as a single entity. You can say {lei ci prenu pu citka lo cipnrdodo} = "The three people ate a dodo", which is different from {le ci prenu pu citka lo cipnrdodo} = "Each of the three people ate a dodo". Jorge