Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0r4Ifo-00005bC; Mon, 7 Nov 94 03:15 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9104; Mon, 07 Nov 94 03:15:16 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 9099; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 03:15:16 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0327; Mon, 7 Nov 1994 02:12:08 +0100 Date: Sun, 6 Nov 1994 17:13:48 -0800 Reply-To: "John E. Clifford" Sender: Lojban list From: "John E. Clifford" Subject: any X-To: lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 418 Lines: 6 And asks for "Any two people can sit on this couch" (I assume "at the same time") without using something like _xe'e_. But this is an easy context-leaper case, the home ground of that concept: "for any x and y different from one another and both people, it can be the case that both sit on this counch at the same time." The universal just has to get outside the scope of the "can," which is hard to show in English.