Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0r87Jy-000071C; Thu, 17 Nov 94 15:56 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4173; Thu, 17 Nov 94 15:56:29 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4168; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 15:56:23 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6302; Thu, 17 Nov 1994 14:50:49 +0100 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 1994 02:34:36 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: "re lo'e broda" is semantically bogus X-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 566 Lines: 13 JL>I think allowing {lo'e} and {le'e} to have quantifiers gives them JL>a lot of usefulness. I really don't see much use for them as singular JL>abstractions. I will agree with Jorge on this, and will cite the archetype example of "lo'e" for me: "The typical American family has a mother, a father and 1.9 children." That one always struck me as odd because I keep tryoing to envision ".9" children. But I can picture .9 of an abstraction that is not really a human being. lo'e merko lanzu selci cu girzu fi lo'e mamta ce lo'e patfu ce papiso lo'e verba lojbab