Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rFduf-00006wC; Thu, 8 Dec 94 10:09 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8245; Thu, 08 Dec 94 10:09:30 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8242; Thu, 8 Dec 1994 10:09:25 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8271; Thu, 8 Dec 1994 09:06:08 +0100 Date: Thu, 8 Dec 1994 02:49:52 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: Qs: Kinship terms X-To: Ted.Harding@nessie.mcc.ac.uk X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 1854 Lines: 38 The artificial language Lojban has such a term for >"the other parent of one's child" in the strictly biological > sense (i.e. no legal, social, etc overtones)? "ternrorci" is the word (probably never used before, but clearly and previously defined with the meaning you seek). Lojban uses a predicate grammar, and the root word "rorci" expresses a 3 part relation between x1 a progenitor (biological parent of unspecified gender) x2 biological offspring (unspecified gender and number) x3 a "co-progenitor" (the other biological parent) the x3 argument may be given focus by use of the particle "te" (i.e. "te rorci"), and this forms the single word "ternrorci" algorithmoically for such a simple and straightforward manipulation of the arguments. Of course "rorci" itself refers to such a co-progenitor, if you yourself are the x3 co-progenitor. "lemi rorci" = "my co-progenitor" would be semantically ambiguous without context as to whether it referred to a one's biological parent or bilogical co-parent - though the former would probably be the norm. You could be unambiguous with the phrase "le rorci be fi mi" = (the person who shares co-progenitorship with me). Of course, you may not be interested in an artificial language solution to the question %^) lojbab ---- lojbab = Bob LeChevalier, President, The Logical Language Group, Inc. 2904 Beau Lane, Fairfax VA 22031-1303 USA 703-385-0273 lojbab@access.digex.net Ask me about the artificial language Loglan/Lojban, or see the Lojban WWW Server href="http://xiron.pc.helsinki.fi/lojban/" We also have material available via ftp (ftp.cs.yale.edu, directory pub/lojban). email mailing list (listserv@ and lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu). The LLG is funded solely by contributions, and are needed in order to support electronic and paper distribution.