Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rI9qA-00007DC; Thu, 15 Dec 94 08:39 EET Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id IAA12526 for ; Thu, 15 Dec 1994 08:39:01 +0200 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI (MAILER@FINHUTC) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V4.3-7 #2494) id <01HKNVOWJYDS0009WF@FIPORT.FUNET.FI>; Thu, 15 Dec 1994 06:37:56 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 3718; Thu, 15 Dec 1994 08:39:06 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4430; Thu, 15 Dec 1994 07:35:45 +0100 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 01:37:49 -0500 From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: plural Sender: Lojban list Reply-to: Logical Language Group Message-id: <01HKNVOX81TI0009WF@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> X-Envelope-to: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT To: shoulson@CS.COLUMBIA.EDU Cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 950 Lines: 28 >>A more valid comparison would be with na/ja'a. If none is given explicitly, >>>ja'a is the default one. > >>na go'i .i go'i .i go'i > >>No I did not contradict myself. "na" carried over as implict to the go'i. >>My son and I get into nago'i/ja'ago'i arguments all the time - one little >>bit of Lojban he knows well. > >Wait, no... I specifically remmeber from years back that "na go'i" in >--More-- >response to a negative jufra is *not* contradiction. It confused me then, >but I was told that it was important. I'm confused; I'm going to find that >reference... I could swear I recall it from John Cowan or something. Is it >tackled in the negation paper? Will repost when I find what I meant. > >~mark In the above example >>na go'i .i go'i .i go'i means identically the same thing as na go'i .i na go'i .i na go'i The "na" gets carried over, just like any sumti, until explicitly replaced by a different value, i.e. "ja'a" lojbab