Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rEaEx-000086C; Mon, 5 Dec 94 12:01 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4696; Mon, 05 Dec 94 01:31:06 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 4694; Mon, 5 Dec 1994 01:31:01 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8614; Mon, 5 Dec 1994 00:27:33 +0100 Date: Sun, 4 Dec 1994 18:32:31 EST Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: cmavo hit list - lojbab responds X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva Content-Length: 795 Lines: 21 la goran cusku di'e > A question about sumti valsi and velski... if you have an expression > like {le la goran. za'o melbi cidju}, what is its first letter? > Is this gy., zy., my. or cy.? I'd say the last one, cy., but I'm > not sure. I'd also use cy in that case. > Second, if you have {le tavla be la goran.}, what is {ri}? Is it > {le tavla be la goran.} or just {la goran.}? I believe the rule is > the last completed sumti. They both finish off at the same time. > Or does the former finish later than latter? It is {le tavla be > la goran. ku be'o ku}... Just some food for thought... I'd say {ri} is {la goran}. I don't know how the rule is worded, but I always understood it was the last complete sumti, so, of all those that have been completed, the one that started last. Jorge