Return-Path: Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rJoTi-00007DC; Mon, 19 Dec 94 22:14 EET Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id WAA29094 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 1994 22:14:42 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (MAILER@SEARN) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V4.3-13 #2494) id <01HKU9CPMRN4000HB3@FIPORT.FUNET.FI>; Mon, 19 Dec 1994 20:13:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8279; Mon, 19 Dec 1994 21:11:24 +0100 Date: Mon, 19 Dec 1994 15:10:44 -0500 From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: more on lehe & ka In-reply-to: <199411271232.AA09015@nfs2.digex.net> from "ucleaar" at Nov 27, 94 12:30:50 pm Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: Logical Language Group Message-id: <01HKU9CQF2PE000HB3@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> X-Envelope-to: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Lojban List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 663 Lines: 17 la .and. cusku di'e > I have been wondering whether the intention behind "ka" is that it > picks out defining properties, and behind "lehe" is that it picks > out nondefining properties. "lohe", perhaps, is supposed to pick > out both. I don't think so. "ka" and "lo'e" pick out actual properties, and "le'e picks out in-mind ones (which may or may not hold). I do not know how to express in Lojban the difference between "technically" and "regular", but they are surely discursives of some sort. "sa'e" probably helps cover the ground. -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.