Received: from access3.digex.net by nfs1.digex.net with SMTP id AA15154 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 16 Dec 1994 04:36:59 -0500 Received: by access3.digex.net id AA24965 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for lojbab); Fri, 16 Dec 1994 04:36:58 -0500 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 04:36:58 -0500 From: Logical Language Group Message-Id: <199412160936.AA24965@access3.digex.net> To: ucleaar@ucl.ac.uk Subject: Re: scope of zo Cc: lojbab@access.digex.net, lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Fri Dec 16 04:37:01 1994 X-From-Space-Address: lojbab >> zo mav rafsi zo mavji > >What distinguishes this from > > zo mavrafsi zo mavji ... > >or > > zo ma vrafsi [supposing there is a rafsi vra] > >? "mavrafsi" fails tosmabru test, so change example to: > > zo mla rafsi vs. zo mlarafsi Since "mav" is a name in Lojban, it will be followed by a pause in spoeech. Therefore it will not glue onto the following word. This is why names must be followed by a pause. "zo mla" is ungrammatical, since "mla" is not a Lojban word. You would need zoi delimited quotes to make it work. "zo" in general should not be used with rafsi. Try lu myly.abu li'u as another alternative. lojbab