Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by nfs1.digex.net with SMTP id AA21451 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 15 Dec 1994 19:10:15 -0500 Message-Id: <199412160010.AA21451@nfs1.digex.net> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0122; Thu, 15 Dec 94 19:10:05 EST Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5476; Thu, 15 Dec 1994 14:04:10 -0500 Date: Thu, 15 Dec 1994 18:37:16 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: plural X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Bob LeChevalier In-Reply-To: (Your message of Thu, 15 Dec 94 01:28:59 EST.) Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Thu Dec 15 19:10:19 1994 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu Lojbab: > The baseball team of 9 men scored a run. > lei so prenu [scored a run]. > > But only one person crossed home plate, and at most 4 players were involved in > getting that person to score the run (barring oddities like sacrifice flies > and the like). So piro would be VERY misleading at the least. This is daft. There is one mass - one team - it scored a run, and its score increases, it edges closer to victory, etc. Which parts of the mass were more or less involved than which other parts is not terribly important. If we say "le pa prenu [scored a run]" we don't ask "which part of the prenu? the arms? the legs? was the pancreas involved? ah but the *teeth* had nothing to do with it". Think of a mass as one individual. --- And