From: Logical Language Group <lojbab>
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Subject: Re: SE & FA
To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu (Lojban List)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 16:18:56 -0500 (EST)
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la lojbab cusku di'e la .and.

> No.  "fa" manipulation is conseidered totally metalinguistic.  You MUST
> physically rearrange the pieces to know what is meant.  I think this
> even overrides scope issues, though I am not sure we addressed the issue.
> (Thus  "broda de fa roda" would mean the same as "roda broda de").  I don't
> feel real strooong on scope interaction and "FA" if you-all who like to
> use it want scope to be spoken order dependent.  I am more concerned with
> SE conversion.

I asked you this a long time ago, and you said that FA did not override
scope (at that time, we were thinking only of explicit da-series variables);
scope was determined by surface order only.  I think that sticking to this
rule is and continues to be the Right Thing.

-- 
John Cowan		sharing account <lojbab@access.digex.net> for now
		e'osai ko sarji la lojban.