Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by nfs1.digex.net with SMTP id AA29808 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Wed, 7 Dec 1994 20:40:29 -0500 Message-Id: <199412080140.AA29808@nfs1.digex.net> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2902; Wed, 07 Dec 94 20:39:13 EST Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8511; Wed, 7 Dec 1994 17:35:17 -0500 Date: Wed, 7 Dec 1994 17:31:44 EST Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: TECH: existential quantification X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Bob LeChevalier Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Wed Dec 7 20:40:39 1994 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu la i,n cusku di'e > I would like to be able to distinguish > in a relatively straightforward manner between the concrete event "I swim > (in the XYZ indoor swimming pool between 11:00 and 12:00 on Wednesday the > 7th of December etc.)" and the abstract event "I swim". What you describe (which I've deleted) is what I understand as the difference between transparent and opaque reference. I would refer to those two as {lo nu mi limna} and {lo'e nu mi limna}. Jorge