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From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Lojban prescriptivism?
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la lojbab cusku di'e

> >  mi na djuno le du'u makau se cmene <<lo'u juhi lobypilno le'u>>
> >
> >
> >My sentence has the same number of syllables, and is more clear because
> >it doesn't need a {tu'a}.
> >
> >What would you expand yours to, if you had to make the tu'a explicit?
>
> Probably the same as yours.

But you can't, because you had {lekau se cmene} as a sumti.
Unless {tu'a <sumti>} doesn't mean {le du'u <sumti> co'e}.

> When I think x2 of djuno, I instinctively go
> tu'a sumti whereas you go ledu'u bridi.

Perhaps because in Spanish I am forced to use a bridi with "saber",
which is the verb I associate with {djuno}, while English "to know"
can mean either "saber" or "conocer".

Jorge