From: Logical Language Group Message-Id: <199412052020.AA11151@access2.digex.net> Subject: Re: TECH: existential quantification Date: Mon, 5 Dec 1994 15:20:36 -0500 (EST) Cc: lojbab@access.digex.net (Logical Language Group) In-Reply-To: <199411260050.AA18996@nfs2.digex.net> from "Iain Alexander" at Nov 25, 94 11:40:28 pm X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL24beta] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 780 Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Mon Dec 5 15:21:00 1994 X-From-Space-Address: lojbab la .i,n. cusku di'e > I pretty much agree with Jorge on this, but I'd like to repeat a > suggestion I've made in the past. I like {za'i} in this situation. > > mi troci lo za'i mi viska do > > This assumes that {za'i } (the state ) is some > sort of abstraction from all the events {nu }. I think this statement evinces a confusion between "nu" and "mu'e", between events and point-events. In Lojban, a state is a kind of event. You may say that a state is made up of a welding-together of many point-events, provided you quantize time (and we don't have to), but nothing can be done with states that can't be done with (generalized, {nu}) events. -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.