Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rGVBM-00007LC; Sat, 10 Dec 94 19:02 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 9853; Sat, 10 Dec 94 19:02:17 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 9851; Sat, 10 Dec 1994 19:02:16 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 1998; Sat, 10 Dec 1994 17:58:58 +0100 Date: Sat, 10 Dec 1994 16:59:00 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: jei X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: (Your message of Sat, 10 Dec 94 01:19:39 EST.) Content-Length: 554 Lines: 13 Lojbab: > But mi djuno fi lejei broda DOES mean "I know whether broda" more or less. > It means I know something about the truth value of the predication broda, > which to me means "I know whether broda". "I know whether broda" is "I know what the truth value of broda is [i.e. 0, 1 or maybe some value in between]". You can know something about thr truth value without knowing whether it is 0 or 1: e.g. you may know that I'm trying to discover what the truth value of broda is, so you therefore know something about the truth value of broda. --- And