Return-Path: Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rIpdS-00007DC; Sat, 17 Dec 94 05:16 EET Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id FAA21482 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 1994 05:16:40 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (MAILER@SEARN) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V4.3-7 #2494) id <01HKQF44OW280002ES@FIPORT.FUNET.FI>; Sat, 17 Dec 1994 03:05:11 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 4866; Fri, 16 Dec 1994 22:00:53 +0100 Date: Fri, 16 Dec 1994 16:02:09 -0500 From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: zo tosmabru cu smuni ma In-reply-to: <199412160553.AA08472@nfs1.digex.net> from "Chris Bogart" at Dec 15, 94 09:48:04 pm Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: Logical Language Group Message-id: <01HKQGUTOCLQ0002ES@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> X-Envelope-to: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Lojban List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 714 Lines: 18 la kris. cusku di'e > zo tosmabru cu smuni ma? .i mi na se slabu le rafsi po'u zo tos. "Tosmabru" is not a Lojban word. It is a mythical word which illustrates one kind of error in manufacturing lujvo. Under certain conditions, a lujvo intended to be of the form "tos-mabru" will instead be interpreted as the cmavo plus shorter lujvo "to sma-bru". The cure is to insert a "y" to make "tos-y-mabru". The rules for detecting tosmabru-type lujvo are fairly complex, and I won't state them here. (The word predates the Lojban/TLI Loglan split, and may have meant something in TLI Loglan.) -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.