Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by nfs1.digex.net with SMTP id AA02092 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Fri, 9 Dec 1994 09:33:47 -0500 Message-Id: <199412091433.AA02092@nfs1.digex.net> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2634; Fri, 09 Dec 94 09:33:37 EST Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7995; Fri, 9 Dec 1994 09:25:24 -0500 Date: Fri, 9 Dec 1994 09:22:42 EST Reply-To: bob@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: bob@GNU.AI.MIT.EDU Subject: Re: habitual X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Bob LeChevalier In-Reply-To: <199412090922.EAA09397@albert.gnu.ai.mit.edu> (message from Jorge Llambias on Thu, 8 Dec 1994 14:07:27 EST) Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Fri Dec 9 09:33:51 1994 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu > Now, let's try `habitually' in that utterance: > > > ta'e kalte fa lo mlatu loi smacu > > Here we have to look at the hunting and at the cat and its previous > experience and at the mouse and its previous experience (or the > plurals of these, or the `Mr. Mouse' entity). This works, too. jorge@phyast.pitt.edu said Its experience previous to what? Does ta'e make reference to what went on before the interval in question? Yes, I think it must. Otherwise the word cannnot have a meaning different from {na'o}, as you originally pointed out. Essentially, what I am saying is that {na'o} suggests looking at the experiences of *different* entities of the same category, occuring but (in theory at least, potentially,) at the same in time, while {ta'e} suggests looking at other experiences in the same category of the *same* entities, which of neccessity occur at different times. Robert J. Chassell bob@gnu.ai.mit.edu 25 Rattlesnake Mountain Road bob@grackle.stockbridge.ma.us Stockbridge, MA 01262-0693 USA (413) 298-4725