Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rHKp2-00007DC; Tue, 13 Dec 94 02:10 EET Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id CAA02908 for ; Tue, 13 Dec 1994 02:10:28 +0200 Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI (MAILER@FINHUTC) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V4.3-7 #2494) id <01HKKPJK29340003DP@FIPORT.FUNET.FI>; Tue, 13 Dec 1994 00:09:27 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8617; Tue, 13 Dec 1994 02:10:39 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 0656; Tue, 13 Dec 1994 01:07:20 +0100 Date: Mon, 12 Dec 1994 19:13:55 -0500 (EST) From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: jei Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Message-id: <01HKKPJKILQE0003DP@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> X-Envelope-to: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 812 Lines: 19 > Nora would probably disagree, and she invented kau if I recall. She even > considers calling them "indirect questions" to be malglico, and preferred > to use null/netral values like"dakau"instead of "makau" I would have to > dig to find out, but I think she had examples where she thought thinking of > these things as a form of 'question' was misleading as to their nature. I'd be very interested to see those examples. > You on the other hand seem to feel that indirection always implies a question. > No easy way to settle it. So lets just agree to disagree until we can find > an example where each other's understandings do not work. What is your understanding? All you've said is that you don't like to call them indirect questions, how can I find an example where that doesn't work? Jorge