Message-Id: <199412032103.AA00576@nfs1.digex.net> From: Chris Bogart Date: Sat Dec 3 16:03:14 1994 Subject: Re: veridicality in grammar Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Sat Dec 3 16:03:14 1994 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu se cusku le ctuca be la goran ku fa di'e: >A natural language is an independent system in self-organisation(*) with >human entities. Q: Does it include Esperanto, then? Explicit A: YES, >if humans use it for communication with other humans, which they do. > >An artificial language is designed for communication with a human-engineered >apparatus(*), and is not independent, but manufactured with the apparatus >(because there is no influence on the language by use, like with nat.langs.) > >Natural languages divide further into spontaneous and non-spontaneous ones. >I guess you can tell which is which: English and Croatian are considered >to be among former, while Lojban and Esperanto are in latter ones. He appears to be dividing things into the same categories I am but using different terms. I particularly like the term "spontaneous" to distinguish French from Esperanto. I'm still uncomfortable with "natural", though, because lojban doesn't have anything more to do with Nature than C++ does! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Chris Bogart cbogart@quetzal.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~