From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu Fri Dec 2 17:13:57 1994 Message-Id: <199412022213.AA20261@nfs2.digex.net> Date: Fri Dec 2 17:13:57 1994 From: Jorge Llambias Subject: Re: Some thoughts on Lojban gadri Status: RO la djan cusku di'e > The fact that "lei" is +specific doesn't affect what its outside quantifier > is, since (as I said before), the outside quantifiers of masses aren't > true logical quantifiers: the true quantifier in the sense of predicate > logic is always "pa". The apparent quantifier is really a fractionator: > we massify some number of components, determined by the inside quantifier > (really a set cardinal, as pc says), get some fraction of it, specific or > non-specific as the gadri tells us, and then use that as a singular term. I think the fractionator is nonspecific unless it is piro. If you are referring to a specific fraction, then {le pisu'o} will do the job. Otherwise, how do you refer to a nonspecific fraction of an in-mind specific mass? Jorge