Received: from access4.digex.net by nfs1.digex.net with SMTP id AA26092 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 24 Jan 1995 02:20:47 -0500 Received: by access4.digex.net id AA23876 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for lojbab); Tue, 24 Jan 1995 02:20:46 -0500 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 02:20:46 -0500 From: Logical Language Group Message-Id: <199501240720.AA23876@access4.digex.net> To: ucleaar@ucl.ac.uk Subject: Re: whiskey lovers Cc: lojbab@access.digex.net, lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Tue Jan 24 02:20:49 1995 X-From-Space-Address: lojbab >Sorry to keep going on about this, but I'm still not clear what {ka} means. >I take on board what you say (and conclude that I've hitherto misunderstood >the meaning of {ka}). What is the essential difference between {ka zzohe >xunre}, on the one hand, and {duhu zohe xunre}, {nu zohe xunre} and >{lihi zohe xunre} on the other? Is it a way of talking about the semantic >selbri - the relationship that holds between the sumti? Exactly. ka are thosse properties of the relationsship that help you determine the truth value. SSometimes the properties can be specific to only one of the sumti in the relationship, or rather try to look at the relationssship from the point of view of the one participant. This is what Cowan has specified should be marked with a lambda variable "dakau" (that should be "role"/sumti-place, not "participant", in the lasts sentence. lojbab