Return-Path: Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rXca3-00007VC; Fri, 27 Jan 95 00:22 EET Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id AAA18363 for ; Fri, 27 Jan 1995 00:22:18 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (MAILER@SEARN) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V4.3-13 #2494) id <01HMBGRLCD5C0009WP@FIPORT.FUNET.FI>; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 22:17:44 +0200 (EET) Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5470; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 23:18:49 +0100 Date: Thu, 26 Jan 1995 14:17:31 -0700 From: Chris Bogart Subject: Re: replies re. ka & mamta be ma Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: Chris Bogart Message-id: <01HMBGRLEWIA0009WP@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> X-Envelope-to: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 338 Lines: 8 >"Go away" is imperative, and the grammar says it is a command. "I >command you to go away" is declarative, and the grammar says it is >an assertion. The same goes for Lojban. The exact nature of the >difference is still a matter of debate, but [...] Perhaps adding "ca'e" would help: does "ko klama" mean "ca'e mi minde lenu do klama"?