Received: from access1.digex.net by nfs1.digex.net with SMTP id AA20857 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Mon, 23 Jan 1995 00:06:39 -0500 Received: by access1.digex.net id AA23151 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for lojbab); Mon, 23 Jan 1995 00:06:36 -0500 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 1995 00:06:36 -0500 From: Logical Language Group Message-Id: <199501230506.AA23151@access1.digex.net> To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: ki le ckule Cc: lojbab@access.digex.net, lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Mon Jan 23 00:06:41 1995 X-From-Space-Address: lojbab "vi [sumti] hasss historically meant "here at" [sumti]. "vi" is pragamatically defined to be a disstance short enough to still be "here", whereas "va" is a distance associated with "there"(ta), and "vu" with "tu". There ar enumerous other words, members of FAhA, that can be more explicit (ne'i?). >> Probably "do'eki le ckule", whatever that means ... > >Perhaps fixing the origin at {le ckule}? I can't see it meaning >anything else, and that meaning seems almost self evident. No its elliptical - you cannot say withh certainty what it means without knowing the context. It might become conventional to use the expression in the way you suggest, but it was not and is not obvious at this point barring such a convention because there is so little context for your text. lojbab