Return-Path: Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rVUXn-00007TC; Sat, 21 Jan 95 03:23 EET Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id DAA00254 for ; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 03:23:09 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (MAILER@SEARN) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V4.3-13 #2494) id <01HM39BRX5V400062L@FIPORT.FUNET.FI>; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 01:18:37 +0200 (EET) Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5745; Sat, 21 Jan 1995 02:19:38 +0100 Date: Fri, 20 Jan 1995 19:02:00 -0500 From: Logical Language Group Subject: mamta be ma Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: Logical Language Group Message-id: <01HM39BSORIA00062L@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> X-Envelope-to: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 456 Lines: 18 >> Really? So "lo mamta be koha .e kohe" means koha and kohe are siblings? > >I think so. Not necessarily. "lo mamta" can be plural. But then you get distributive sentences under logical expansion. >> How would you say "the mothers of Jorge and And"? > >Perhaps {lei mamta be la xorxes a la and}. > >If you want to be precise, I don't see any way of shortening {le mamta >be la xorxes be'o e le mamta be la and}. Use a non-logical connective. lojbab