Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by nfs1.digex.net with SMTP id AA20337 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 31 Jan 1995 20:48:11 -0500 Message-Id: <199502010148.AA20337@nfs1.digex.net> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 1316; Tue, 31 Jan 95 20:49:44 EST Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2977; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 19:20:43 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 23:29:56 GMT Reply-To: ia@stryx.demon.co.uk Sender: Lojban list From: Iain Alexander Subject: Re: replies re. ka X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Bob LeChevalier Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Tue Jan 31 20:48:16 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu In message <9501310152.aa26548@punt.demon.co.uk> jorge@phyast.pitt.edu writes: > And: > > Ex, she knows that x is the identity of the set of the colours of the > > house. > > (1) ko'a djuno le du'u le zdani cu skari makau > > (2) da zo'u ko'a djuno le du'u da ka du lo'i se skari be le zdani > > If the house is blue, then (1) tells me that she knows that the house is > blue, while (2) tells me that she knows what is the identity of the set > {blue}. Are those two equivalent? pe'i le me li re cu mapti .inaja se basti lu << (2a)mai da zo'u ko'a djuno le du'u da ka [ge'oly.] se skari be le zdani >> li'u (to ko.e'a jaigau basti fai ledo neinrai me ge'oly. cenba lu ge'oly. li'u toi zo'o:) .ijo je'u srana lo'i ka blanu ku su'anai .i zu'unai mi nalmutce nelci la'ede'u ki'unai la'edi'u .i mi zmanei tu'a lo me ge'oly. cenba .e zo kau co'omi'e .i,n. noi na jibni ponse lo lojbo dziselci'a -- Iain Alexander ia@stryx.demon.co.uk I.Alexander@bra0125.wins.icl.co.uk