Return-Path: Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rPCsP-00007NC; Tue, 3 Jan 95 19:18 EET Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id TAA05385 for ; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 19:18:27 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (MAILER@SEARN) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V4.3-13 #2494) id <01HLF1KLQMLS000ZHT@FIPORT.FUNET.FI>; Tue, 03 Jan 1995 17:17:41 +0200 (EET) Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6802; Tue, 3 Jan 1995 18:15:00 +0100 Date: Tue, 03 Jan 1995 11:13:12 -0500 From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: terseness In-reply-to: <199412230416.AA26194@nfs2.digex.net> from "Gerald Koenig" at Dec 22, 94 08:15:20 pm Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: Logical Language Group Message-id: <01HLF1KNB3D2000ZHT@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> X-Envelope-to: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Lojban List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 971 Lines: 29 la djer. cusku di'e > cusku la djan: No, that means "Someone said John", a rather useless sentence, not to be confused with "Someone said 'John'", which is "cusku zo djan.". ("cusku la djan." would make sense if "djan." is the name of an utterance.) > >To paraphrase Dennis Ritchie, > > > > "If you want English, you know where to find it." > > > Who is Dennis Ritchie, and what did he phrase? The co-inventor of the programming language 'C'. At one point in C's early development, {lo} users were making requests for various enhancements to the language, which would (in Ritchie's opinion) spoil its {integritas}, or "clean-ness". Making an implicit comparison to a then-much-used, far more baroque language, he retorted: If you want PL/I, you know where to find it. This saying is rather well-known in the hacker community. -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.