Return-Path: Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rWxTU-00007WC; Wed, 25 Jan 95 04:28 EET Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id EAA27772 for ; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 04:28:46 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (MAILER@SEARN) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V4.3-13 #2494) id <01HM8WSIHQYO0000TG@FIPORT.FUNET.FI>; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 02:24:16 +0200 (EET) Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7454; Wed, 25 Jan 1995 03:23:41 +0100 Date: Tue, 24 Jan 1995 18:17:30 -0500 (EST) From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: whiskey lovers Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Message-id: <01HM8WSJRY9G0000TG@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> X-Envelope-to: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 949 Lines: 24 la lojbab cusku di'e > Exactly. ka are thosse properties of the relationsship that help you > determine the truth value. SSometimes the properties can be specific to > only one of the sumti in the relationship, or rather try to look at the > relationssship from the point of view of the one participant. This is > what Cowan has specified should be marked with a lambda variable "dakau" > (that should be "role"/sumti-place, not "participant", in the lasts sentence. Has Cowan really specified that? I've been arguing that {dakau} cannot be the lambda variable because as an indirect question it would have a conflict, for example in: ko'a ko'e frica le ka XXXX skari makau Koha and kohe differ in what colour THEY are. where XXXX stands for the lambda variable. I don't think it has been decided what is the lambda variable. I suggested {ke'a}, but if it can't be {ke'a} then it should be a new cmavo, never {dakau}. Jorge