Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by nfs2.digex.net with SMTP id AA22103 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Thu, 26 Jan 1995 21:37:35 -0500 Message-Id: <199501270237.AA22103@nfs2.digex.net> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4205; Thu, 26 Jan 95 21:39:26 EST Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 3576; Thu, 26 Jan 1995 21:38:54 -0500 Date: Fri, 27 Jan 1995 00:33:41 GMT Reply-To: ia@stryx.demon.co.uk Sender: Lojban list From: Iain Alexander Subject: Re: more on vi/fa'a/to'o X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Bob LeChevalier Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Thu Jan 26 21:37:38 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu I thought the idea was that one pair (fa'a/to'o, I think) was about motion relative to the specified point (if any), and the other (ze'o/zo'i) was about motion starting from the specified point, but relative to the origin. So mo'ifa'a ko'a towards X mo'ito'o ko'a away from X mo'ize'o ko'a outwards from X (i.e. away from here, starting from X) mo'izo'i ko'a inwards from X (i.e. towards here, starting from X) ^ | mo'ize'o | mo'ifa'a | mo'ito'o -------> X -------> | | mo'izo'i v O So {ze'o} and {zo'i} are special cases of {to'o}. I suggest the following corresponding static interpretations. fa'a near to (more or less redundant with {ne'a}) to'o distant from (more or less redundant with {na'ene'a}) zo'i cis, on this side of ze'o trans, on the other side of ko ca'o zvati to'o lei srasu Keep off the grass! -- Iain Alexander ia@stryx.demon.co.uk I.Alexander@bra0125.wins.icl.co.uk