Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by nfs1.digex.net with SMTP id AA22479 (5.67b8/IDA-1.5 for ); Tue, 31 Jan 1995 21:31:17 -0500 Message-Id: <199502010231.AA22479@nfs1.digex.net> Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 2968; Tue, 31 Jan 95 21:33:06 EST Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2512; Tue, 31 Jan 1995 21:25:15 -0500 Date: Tue, 31 Jan 1995 21:26:02 EST Reply-To: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sender: Lojban list From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: replies re. ka X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Bob LeChevalier Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Tue Jan 31 21:31:20 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu la and cusku di'e > But at any rate I think it's valuable to establish > whether makau is an easy way to say what could be said without makau, > using only the already existing means, or whether it increases the > expressive power of the lg. I feel it doesn't increase expressive > power: it is an optional add-on, a useful convenience. ie i ku'i pe'i la'e di'u cu jetnu sera'a ro cmavo > Incidentally, how about > > koha kohe frica le se skari > > which wd save a lot of tears. na'e nabmi i ku'i kakne se smuni le du'u ko'a ko'e frica le ka ke'a se skari makau kei kei e le du'u ko'a ko'e se frica le ka ke'a se skari fi makau kei kei e lo drata > > > That all seems well and good. I merely wonder whether there is a rule > > > that says the ZI specifies the displacement of the most recent PU. > > > Is it always unambiguous which PU any ZI specifies the displacement of? > > i na ka'e se senpi va'o le nu zo pu joi zo zi tagji jorne lo > > selbri i mi sruma le du'u mintu va'o le nu sumti tcita > > How are they tagji jorne lo selbri? mu'a <> enai <> > And what are mintu? mintu mit mi'u same 'identical' x1 is the same/identical thing as x2 by standard x3; i pe'i le smuni be lu puzi li'u ne va'o le nu ri tagji jorne lo selbri cu mintu le smuni ne va'o le nu ri sumti tcita co'o mi'e xorxes