Date: Mon, 02 Jan 1995 12:28:43 -0800
From: Gerald Koenig <jlk@NETCOM.COM>
Subject: Stacked Spatial Tenses
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To: Veijo Vilva <veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI>
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A drill instructor and his lojbo squad are facing the top of your
screen, which represents the far side of a drill field.  He holds
his position and barks:

ko cadzu ca'uvi ri'uvi ri'uvi ri'uvi

Definitions:

ko: imperative you
cadzu: march
ca'u: forward
vi: a little distance
ri'u: right


Dictionary disclaimer: Consult lojbab on the mount for full
definitions. (humor)


Does the squad trace out pattern A;        (O is the start)


^ * * * * >
*         *
*         *
*         *
*         *
O< * * * *


Or pattern B?

^ * * * *> * * * *> * * * *>
*
*
*
*
O


If the drill instructor marches along always facing the same way as the
squad, which pattern is traced?

Basically I want to know if the spatial tenses are are bound to the
speaker's position, and if not when and how does the coordinate system
change origin or orientation.  Is the system always relative to the
speaker's current position by default?  Is "ko cadzu ca'avi ki etc. "
necessary to get pattern B when the drill instructor marches along?

djer