Return-Path: Received: from fiport.funet.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rbcTE-00001FC; Tue, 7 Feb 95 01:03 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (MAILER@SEARN) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V4.3-13 #2494) id <01HMQVF5EUSW001H9V@FIPORT.FUNET.FI>; Mon, 06 Feb 1995 22:59:29 +0200 (EET) Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 9149; Mon, 6 Feb 1995 23:59:55 +0100 Date: Mon, 06 Feb 1995 13:55:32 -0700 From: Chris Bogart Subject: Re: zi'o (was: jorne) Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: Chris Bogart Message-id: <01HMQVF61N5I001H9V@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> X-Envelope-to: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Content-Length: 582 Lines: 10 >As a result, the current hole-plugging scheme >is now used syntactically and the embedded-number scheme morphologically, >which satisfies nobody. We already have great facilities for *adding* places, by using BAI cmavo or by making lujvo (especially standard ones like XXX-gau). I'd rather start with minimal bridi and build them than delete places anyway. Since the current gismu have for the most part been defined fairly minimally, I rarely come across the need for "zi'o". I think the use of "zi'o" signals that a gismu has been defined with too many places to begin with.