Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rhkRI-00001pC; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:47 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 0398; Thu, 23 Feb 95 22:47:25 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 0396; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 22:47:25 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 6269; Thu, 23 Feb 1995 21:43:33 +0100 Date: Thu, 23 Feb 1995 15:44:47 -0500 Reply-To: Logical Language Group Sender: Lojban list From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: On {lo} and existence X-To: Lojban List To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: <199502220224.AA11097@nfs2.digex.net> from "jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU" at Feb 21, 95 08:58:32 pm Content-Length: 765 Lines: 20 pc writes, lapsing into bastard TLI Loglan: > > we set it up > > that way. The only "All elves" that does not is whatever has > > become of _ro_da_kanoi_da__ki_ and that is because of > > _kanoi_, not _ro_ (and even it implies the rather wimpy _da_ > > _kanoi_ etc.). Jorge, understandably bewildered, says: > I've no idea what _kanoi_ would be, but Lojban's {noi} does precisely > the opposite, i.e. it does make an incidental claim therefore requiring > existence, as in {ro da noi broda}. By "kanoi...ki" pc means "ganai...gi". And I think he is wrong: "ro broda" doesn't entail existence. -- John Cowan sharing account for now e'osai ko sarji la lojban.