Return-Path: Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0re2vb-00001pC; Mon, 13 Feb 95 17:43 EET Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.9/8.6.5) with ESMTP id RAA19895 for ; Mon, 13 Feb 1995 17:43:02 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (MAILER@SEARN) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V4.3-13 #2494) id <01HN07NCFHDS0037HQ@FIPORT.FUNET.FI>; Mon, 13 Feb 1995 15:32:59 +0200 (EET) Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 7795; Sat, 11 Feb 1995 22:40:42 +0100 Date: Sat, 11 Feb 1995 16:38:21 -0500 (EST) From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: jorne Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Message-id: <01HN07V09BAC0037HQ@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> X-Envelope-to: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 644 Lines: 18 la jimc cusku di'e > Nonetheless, I support the "lean lujvo" idea of using BAI for many > presently defined miscellaneous places. However, as an exception, I > find useful the 4 or 5 numbered places on motion words. Fortunately > they are (or should be) uniform in definition. Of the 24 gismu with an x5 place, only 3: bevri (carry), klama (come) and plipe (leap) seem to involve motion, and another 3 could be related: benji (transfer), fanva (translate), mrilu (mail). bevri, benji and mrilu have parallel structures, but the other three have their own. The most unexpcted 5 place gismu was {santa}, which means "umbrella". Jorge