Return-Path: Received: from fiport.funet.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rcXiN-00001pC; Thu, 9 Feb 95 14:11 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (MAILER@SEARN) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V4.3-13 #2494) id <01HMUFI5I64G003025@FIPORT.FUNET.FI>; Thu, 09 Feb 1995 12:06:56 +0200 (EET) Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5425; Thu, 9 Feb 1995 13:07:35 +0100 Date: Thu, 09 Feb 1995 07:08:26 -0500 From: Logical Language Group Subject: Re: jorne Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: Logical Language Group Message-id: <01HMUFI5JAMQ003025@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> X-Envelope-to: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: ucleaar@ucl.ac.uk X-cc: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu Content-Length: 557 Lines: 11 You can call it that. I would call it a garna se dandu bukpu. It certainly isn't a lanci to me, zi'o or no zi'o. (I MIGHT include lanci in a modifier position if it was useful). Note that there is nothing even in English flags that requires them to be oblong. BTW, my dictionary (American as it may be) specifically mentions symbolism as an integral part of the defintion for flag, and for all but one definition of banner (an advertising banner may not stand for anything in itself, but catches the attention with words, colors or pictures). lojbab