Return-Path: <@FINHUTC.HUT.FI:LOJBAN@CUVMB.BITNET> Received: from FINHUTC.hut.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0riiX8-00001pC; Sun, 26 Feb 95 14:57 EET Message-Id: Received: from FINHUTC.HUT.FI by FINHUTC.hut.fi (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 8439; Sun, 26 Feb 95 14:57:23 EET Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin MAILER@SEARN) by FINHUTC.HUT.FI (LMail V1.1d/1.7f) with BSMTP id 8436; Sun, 26 Feb 1995 14:57:23 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 5207; Sun, 26 Feb 1995 13:53:29 +0100 Date: Sun, 26 Feb 1995 12:55:57 +0000 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: replies re. ka & mamta be ma X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: (Your message of Sat, 25 Feb 95 13:49:15 EST.) Content-Length: 533 Lines: 14 Jorge, quoting me: > > [1] koha djuno le duhu makau klama [...] > > I think Jorge's reaction to this, is that while [1] literally > > (truth-conditionally) means "She knows that there is someone who came", > No, I don't agree that that is what [1] literally means. That does not > allow for her knowing that noone comes, while [1] does. I must have been either confused or careless when I said that. What I really think is that [1] is truth conditionally equivalent to "She knows *whether* there is someone that came". --- And