From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu Sat Feb 11 16:38:42 1995 Message-Id: <199502112138.AA12571@nfs2.digex.net> Date: Sat Feb 11 16:38:42 1995 From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: jorne la jimc cusku di'e > Nonetheless, I support the "lean lujvo" idea of using BAI for many > presently defined miscellaneous places. However, as an exception, I > find useful the 4 or 5 numbered places on motion words. Fortunately > they are (or should be) uniform in definition. Of the 24 gismu with an x5 place, only 3: bevri (carry), klama (come) and plipe (leap) seem to involve motion, and another 3 could be related: benji (transfer), fanva (translate), mrilu (mail). bevri, benji and mrilu have parallel structures, but the other three have their own. The most unexpcted 5 place gismu was {santa}, which means "umbrella". Jorge