From LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu Sun Mar 26 12:40:14 1995 From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Date: Sun Mar 26 12:40:14 1995 Subject: Re: selbri as sumti Status: RO Message-ID: And: > The x1 is an individual event, with, as you > say, determinate sumti, but also with determinate time. The x2 > obviously is not the same event, & I don't see why (especially if > we reason from a glico notion of recurrence) it has to be an event > identical to the x1 in all respects other than tense. Maybe because the time in which it happens is one of the least important identifying characteristics of an event, so that two that only differ in that are almost perceived as the same, just like today's John is almost perceived as the same as yesterday's John. Also, the x3 of krefu suggests that what differs is precisely the time of occurence. How else would they be naturally ordered? Jorge