Return-Path: Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0rnaKT-00007ZC; Sun, 12 Mar 95 01:12 EET Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.10+Emil1.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id BAA17991 for ; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 01:12:13 +0200 Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (MAILER@SEARN) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V4.3-13 #2494) id <01HO0ZCD669C002A6U@FIPORT.FUNET.FI>; Sat, 11 Mar 1995 23:08:12 +0200 (EET) Received: from SEARN.SUNET.SE (NJE origin LISTSERV@SEARN) by SEARN.SUNET.SE (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 8259; Sun, 12 Mar 1995 00:08:26 +0100 Date: Sun, 12 Mar 1995 00:08:33 +0100 (MET) From: Goran Topic Subject: Re: selbri as sumti Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: Goran Topic Message-id: <01HO0ZCD7L42002A6U@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> X-Envelope-to: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: Lojban Listserv MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 1446 Lines: 46 > Chris: > > >PROBLEM ONE > > >How can we say "I always do my shopping on the same day of the > > >week"? .i mu'a lu mi vecnu ca ro mupli befi lo pa jefydje li'u pei > Chris: > > >PROBLEM TWO > > >"I ate a strange kind of fish". What I ate was not strange. .i ma smuni di'u > "Strange kind" doesn't necessarily mean "strange species". Species > are not the only kinds. Moreover, your method will not generalize to: > > I ate a strange kind of food. > I read a strange kind of book. .i sosyselsmu pe'i .i lu mi tcidu lo cukta belo cizra li'u .e lu mi tcidu lo cukta befu lo cizra li'u .e lu mi tcidu lo cukta poi cizra mi loka mi tcidu ri li'u selsmu di'u > Chris: > > >PROBLEM THREE > > >"Today I performed my quotidian activities": > > I'll ignore the tanru, as they're too vague. > {se gasnu be ca ro djedi}: It's hard to think of anything that > satisfies the predicate Is-an-activity-occurring-every-day. Maybe > a team of bridge painters, working 24 hours a day, year after year. > Certainly teeth cleaning isn't such an activity: each event of > teeth cleaning happens on only one day. Yet it is quotidian. .ienai .i pe'i de'u xamgu .ijo mi ruble jimpe lo smuni bezo ca .i mu'aji'a lu mi gasnu lo selgau bemi besu'oroi lo djedi li'u co'o mi'e. goran. -- Learn languages! The more langs you know, the more incomprehensible you can get e'udoCILreleiBANgu.izo'ozo'onairoBANguteDJUnobedocubanRI'a.ailekadonaka'eSELjmi