From jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Sat Mar 6 22:46:35 2010 From: jorge@PHYAST.PITT.EDU Subject: Re: selbri as sumti Date: Sat Mar 25 11:20:17 1995 Status: RO X-From-Space-Date: Sat Mar 25 11:20:17 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu Message-ID: <2AKkGii37KO.A.XUG.Lv0kLB@chain.digitalkingdom.org> And: > But if John goes and then Sophy goes, Sophy's going is a recurrence of > going - of lo nu da klama. And your toothbrushing is a recurrence of > there being something that you brush, and of there being someone that > brushes your teeth, and of there being something that someone brushes. > This is what I was getting at. I am not convinced. What you call "going" is "the event of someone going somewhere from somewhere via some path by some means". Any recurrence of this event will involve the same someone, the same somewheres the same path and the same means. What recurs is an event, not the proposition {da klama}, with {da} unbound. On the other hand, I do see that the event {le nu da zo'u da klama} could recur with different people being {da}. It probably boils down to how similar two things have to be in order to be considered recurrences. Today's John is similar enough to yesterday's, so we have no problem with them being recurrences of the same thing. Maybe Sophy's and John's going are also similar enough. But where do you stop? Is Sophy's running a recurrence of John's singing? After all, they are both recurrences of {lo nu da bu'a}, right? Jorge