Return-Path: Received: from listmail.sunet.se by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0s4Bed-0009acC; Wed, 26 Apr 95 21:17 EET DST Received: from segate.sunet.se (segate.sunet.se [192.36.125.6]) by listmail.sunet.se (8.6.12/8.6.12) with SMTP id UAA08127 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 1995 20:15:23 +0200 Message-Id: <199504261815.UAA08127@listmail.sunet.se> Date: Wed, 26 Apr 1995 18:47:10 +0100 Reply-To: ucleaar Sender: Lojban list From: ucleaar Subject: Re: proposals X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Veijo Vilva In-Reply-To: (Your message of Tue, 25 Apr 95 20:06:38 MST.) Content-Length: 1421 Lines: 29 pc: > Of course, I still like the proposal to have an afterthought > quantifier that leaps to the head of the prenex, though I do not > much like using x-- space for it yet. I am also in favor -- on > general principles -- of having afterthought everythings, so I > support proposals for them as well, though I do not exactly see > what they are to do. > I do not see the other proposal about quantifiers, broadly > speaking, namely to mark within intensional (opaque) contexts > those sumti which were to be taken as referring outside that > context and thus capable of being bound by external quantifiers > (or, if quantifier expressions, capable of being exported). > This proposal got mixed with the after- > thought quantifier proposal in some way and I failed to sort > matters out intelligibly at the time. It's my fault they got mixed. I named the proposed cmavo in your second para {xohu} & then mistakenly assumed it would also do the job of the proposal in your first para & started using it in that way. I support both proposals. > I just do not understand the continued requests for "any." I think the point is to make things as easy to say as they are in English, without having to use additional subordinate bridi. But I wouldn't support the "any" requests. --- And