Return-Path: Received: from kantti.helsinki.fi by xiron.pc.helsinki.fi with smtp (Linux Smail3.1.28.1 #1) id m0s1I89-0009acC; Tue, 18 Apr 95 21:36 EET DST Received: from fiport.funet.fi (fiport.funet.fi [128.214.109.150]) by kantti.helsinki.fi (8.6.12+Emil1.1/8.6.5) with ESMTP id VAA08628 for ; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 21:36:07 +0300 Received: from LISTSERV.FUNET.FI (LISTSERV@FIPORT) by FIPORT.FUNET.FI (PMDF V4.3-13 #2494) id <01HPHQUN0YXC0000B9@FIPORT.FUNET.FI>; Tue, 18 Apr 1995 18:35:57 +0200 (EET) Date: Sun, 09 Apr 1995 15:53:26 +0100 From: ucleaar Subject: Re: More about scopes In-reply-to: (Your message of Sat, 08 Apr 95 16:21:46 EDT.) Sender: Lojban list To: Veijo Vilva Reply-to: ucleaar Message-id: <01HPHSWXTICK0000B9@FIPORT.FUNET.FI> X-Envelope-to: veion@XIRON.PC.HELSINKI.FI Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Length: 756 Lines: 23 > > As you say, "ro" is the default > > quantifier for "ko'a". > > And also of mi, do, mi'o, etc... I think I would have preferred > piro for all of these. A single mass referent is so much simpler than > several single referents. > > The paper says: > > >>The personal pro-sumti may be interpreted in context as either representing > >>individuals or masses, so the implicit quantifier may be "pisu'o" rather > >>than "ro": in particular, "mi'o", "mi'a", "ma'a", and "do'o" specifically > >>represent mass combinations of the individuals (you and I, I and others, > >>you and I and others, you and others) that make them up. > > Then I don't see the point of {ro} being the default. {piro} seems much > better. I agree. {piro} makes more sense. --- And