From @uga.cc.uga.edu:lojban@cuvmb.bitnet Mon May 29 22:24:46 1995 Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk by stryx.demon.co.uk with SMTP id AA3174 ; Mon, 29 May 95 22:24:39 BST Received: from punt2.demon.co.uk via puntmail for ia@stryx.demon.co.uk; Mon, 29 May 95 20:50:41 GMT Received: from uga.cc.uga.edu by punt2.demon.co.uk id aa06537; 29 May 95 21:50 +0100 Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU by uga.cc.uga.edu (IBM VM SMTP V2R2) with BSMTP id 4901; Mon, 29 May 95 16:48:19 EDT Received: from UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (NJE origin LISTSERV@UGA) by UGA.CC.UGA.EDU (LMail V1.2a/1.8a) with BSMTP id 2927; Mon, 29 May 1995 16:48:19 -0400 Date: Mon, 29 May 1995 16:50:21 -0400 Reply-To: "Dylan P. Thurston" Sender: Lojban list From: "Dylan P. Thurston" Subject: Re: quantifiers on sumti - late response X-To: lojban@cuvmb.cc.columbia.edu To: Iain Alexander In-Reply-To: <01HR0IAVEPUABIK4D7@NETOP6.HARVARD.EDU> Message-ID: <9505292150.aa06537@punt2.demon.co.uk> Status: R Chris Bogart writes: > la kris. cusku di'e > > > .i ku'i da nabmi .i pe'i na cumki fi'o valsi zo lei .uinai > > .i la dilyn cusku di'e: > >.i ki'u ma do cusku di'u .i .e'u lu > > re le gunma be lo gunka cu zbasu le ti dinju > >li'u (to zoi gy. {two of the groups of workers built this building} > >.gy toi) simsa lu > > re lei gunka cu zbasu le ti dinju > >li'u > > Because in your interpretation of "re lei gunka" it's the group that's > "in-mind", not the workers. "Two of the masses-that-I-have-in-mind of > things-which-really-are-workers" -- I think that's not really a consistent > use of "lei", since "pa lei gunka" clearly means "the mass of all things > which I refer to as workers (but might not be)". I was going to suggest that I put in an inner quantifier {su'o} to explicitly say that I'm not talking about _all_ the men I have in mind, but I checked and the inner quantifier of {lei} is already {su'o}. Doesn't this mean that {lei gunka} can be some piece of the workers I have in mind? Maybe it would make more sense for the inner quantifier of {gunka} to be {ro}. > ____ > Chris Bogart \ / ftp://ftp.csn.net/cbogart/html/homepage.html > Quetzal Consulting \/ cbogart@quetzal.com mu'o mi'e. dilyn.