From pcliffje@CRL.COM Sat Mar 6 22:44:59 2010 Date: Thu, 11 May 1995 14:32:25 -0700 From: "John E. Clifford" Subject: proposals To: Bob LeChevalier X-From-Space-Date: Fri May 12 02:09:17 1995 X-From-Space-Address: LOJBAN%CUVMB.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu Message-ID: I can't recommend reading Fennimore Cooper (see Mark Twain's lit crit), but I just noticed that he does a lot of using time markers for space: a place is two days away and the like. We could unpack this, of course, to "the distance we could walk in two days" or some such, but that seems unnecessary -- except that not doing so means we need tensor markers for both time and space, not just a single one for both. Out side of physics, I don't know of a case of using spatial terms for times. But I also thought of the now virtually impenetrable "Bogies at 10:30 high" which is an overt time reference for a _vector_(!) "Enemy aircraft about 45 degrees left of straight ahead and more than 30 degrees (I think it is -- you have to look up anyhow) above level" More evidence for a needed spatial vector marker that takes sumti for the direction, not the origin (but how do we say the origin in that case?). pc>|83